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Rose, Unknown Rose named for Dorothy Wiede

QUESTION:
Does anyone know the identity of this rose? What we do know is that this rose was given to Dorothy Wiede, the San Antonio, Texas' "Angel's Trumpet" -- Brugmansia syn. Datura -- Expert, by a Southeast side resident about 40 years ago. I have checked with Greg Grant of Arcadia who is a world-renown rose expert and he does not know what it is. We don't think it is an antique rose because of the unusual color.
Anybody got any ideas?

ANSWER:
My brother Lynn in Ohio found a rose named "Conservation" which has the same coloration of the "Wiede" Mystery Rose. NOW, we have to wonder if it is a seedling of one of the parents of the "Conservation" rose and/or how it got to San Antonio nearly 100 years ago!?!?

 

The "Wiede" Rose:

The 'Wiede' Rose

 

The "Conservation" Rose:

The 'Conservation' Rose

http://www.apuldramroses.co.uk/CONSERVATION+Cocdimple-rose.htm

ARS: Pink blend Miniature.
Registration name: COCdimple
Exhibition name: Conservation
Origin: Bred by Anne G. Cocker (Scotland, 1986).
Class: Miniature, Patio.
Bloom: Pink blend, yellow center. Mild fragrance. 18 petals. Semi-double (9-16 petals) bloom form. Blooms in flushes throughout the season.
Habit: Height of 18" to 30" (45 to 75 cm). Width of 18" (45 cm).
Growing: USDA zone 6b through 9b (default). Disease susceptibility: very disease resistant. Spring Pruning: Remove old canes and dead or diseased wood and cut back canes that cross. In warmer climates, cut back the remaining canes by about one-third. In colder areas, you'll probably find you'll have to prune a little more than that.

Parentage:



Seed: [Sabine (hybrid tea, Tantau, 1962) See: http://www.rosesuk.com/rose_locator/roses/patio_less_than_60cm/161_gingernut.php (the cross which created the variety "Ginger Nut" has the same Parentage as the Conservation Rose, i.e., Parentage: (Sabine x Circus) x Darling Flame.

The variety "Ginger Nut":

The variety 'Ginger Nut'

 

X "Circus" Rose is:

'Circus' Rose

 


X Maxi:

See: http://www.rosesuk.com/rose_locator/roses/patio_less_than_60cm/804_caribbean_dawn.php Maxi Rose

 


Pollen: Darling Flame (See: http://www.rosesuk.com/rose_locator/roses/patio_less_than_60cm/151_darling_flame.php Darling Flame

 


Notes:
This "Conservation" rose is named for the World Wildlife Fund...

The Mystery or "Wiede" Rose is a combination of these colors,
See:
The Wide Rose
Then, Sally Estrada, a loyal listener, e-mails:
"These pictures are of the Rose I had...it was called the Playboy Rose ( http://www.rose-gardening-made-easy.com/Playboy-rose.html ) that I bought at a nursery here in San Antonio. I called in a few weeks ago to see if you all thought the Mystery rose was this variety....I found these images recently that I had taken of it before I lost it to the extreme heat last year while we were on vacation. Perhaps it will give you a clue... I enjoy your radio show each weekend."

So, after months, we have no positive ID. This rose could be a seedling of any of the rose or rose progeny we have mentioned.
So, until proved otherwise, this rose will be named the "Weide Rose" and be considered an Antique Rose since we know it is over 75 years old.

 

 

 


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